Thursday, November 15, 2007

Is it true or is it yet another lie?


Is it true or is it yet another lie?


After reading Harlow’s blog I decided to check out what he said in his letter to the editor of Out.

Seems Harlow wanted to thank Out for publishing the article about the death of Bryan Kocis. Harlow extended his thanks Michael Gross for putting together an un-biased version of this story for print.

Harlow points out that the writer could have easily exploited them for information or cast a darker cloud over them involving this case.

Harlow went on to say that Mr. Gross was sensitive and considerate when interviewing Joseph’s parents and that Mr. Gross is an gentleman and excellent ambassador for Out.

That’s really all there was to the brief letter to the editor.

Now the point to consider…

Is any of this true or is it a lie.

Certain posters make claims that anytime Harlow speaks in public, it has to be a lie because his lips are moving. Now of course there have been many versions of this statement and what it was suppose to mean. Certain bloggers that claim to know it all, have had to back up and repost the meaning of what they are saying or posting on a regular basis. Pretty sad I tell you. I have admiration for anyone that is willing to stand up for what they believe in or take a stance and actually use factual information with resources to back up the claims they want to make. However, in this case I only have admiration for a few (Rob and Jim are not included in the list of people I admire.)


Now with the certain bloggers attempting to make Harlow a liar, you have failed miserably.

Harlow has only made a few public statements and to date, those statements still stand true and the meaning of what he has said has not once changed (unlike some bloggers) since I have been following this case.

Is it true or is it a lie? Just ask certain bloggers for proof of what they say and of course they cannot provide anything other than an opinion.






Another issue to consider is where I live and who am I. First and foremost, does it really make any difference? If so, what difference does it make?

Let me tell you what difference it makes, NONE WHAT SO EVER.

Now some claim they have triangulated my location to be in La Jolly, CA. I have read that using the triangulation method is known to cause brain tumors since it depends on the internet and pings. (That is a joke by the way). I really don’t know how anyone could triangulate my IP to be in CA. Oh wait, I do know... Just make up whatever you want to post as the truth. Once again certain bloggers only have proven to have no knowledge of what they are saying.

Now of course they cannot even back up what they are saying about where I live. They once again just want to make up lies to keep the topic spinning. Now the funny part is I have never once been to California much less even heard of La Jolly and now it is continuously being reported that I live there. Of course some of these same bloggers use to think that Elm and I was the same person. Very early in that discussion I posted that I was not even the same race as Elm, but that still did not stop some from making up whatever they wanted.

I live in Florida. Not that it makes any difference what so ever. Not that this will change the opinion of some that seem to think I am now someone named Keith. On another side note, I have not even seen or chatted with anyone named Keith following this case.

Is it true or another lie? I must say it is more lies being told. It’s really sad that people still have to make up stuff while following this case.

There are a lot of details that could be discussed without the liars trying to prove what they know or should I say what they don’t know.

Last but not least, we have to consider the recent blog entry from Joe.

Joe seems to think that there is a deal on the table and if all was told Sean and Grant would be there with him soon. Joe seems to want to extend a welcome for them to come join him in Luzerne County Jail.



Now of course people are screaming that Harlow is making a deal, where are the facts to support that statement? Even in Joe’s recent post there is no mention that it is Harlow making a deal. Could this be a statement from Joe that he has finally given the State the information they need to finally arrest Sean and Grant.

Is it true or another lie? Good question. I’m not sure.


One thing I am sure of since the beginning of this case I have always felt that Sean and Grant were involved in the case. If they were truly innocent there would never have been a discussion of murder at dinner. Unless that is a CA thing, talk about murder while you eat. Here in Florida that is unacceptable dinner conversation.

I have always claimed there was a lot more to this case than what we knew in the beginning. Could this be the beginning of the end for Sean and Grant?

Is it the truth or a lie? Should Sean and Grant actually pack a pillow for their travels to PA?

12 comments:

Rob said...

Hey Jakester--

Your IP registers to La Jolla, CA, not one ping whatsoever to any location in Florida as if all the graphics in the text of your blog will help.

Yep, I admit I originally thought that Elm authored this blog because of the similarities in writing styles and themes. No, this IP originates at La Jolla,
California.

As for the bigger issue here, Joe Kerekes can whine all he wants about Harlow getting a possible deal with the State's attorney. Is not this the same Joseph Kerekes who placed Harlow Cuadra at the door of Kocis' home on the evening of the murder and prior to that the same piece of work who had Harlow use his Discover card to rent the SUV that was driven into PA--again Joe's statement to thank for their whereabouts and that Discover card was used to purchase a 9mm handgun and a folding combat knife from a Virginia Beach, VA pawnshop. Kerekes certainly looks like he is setting up Harlow to take the dive for Kocis' murder. And Harlow is not supposed to work out a deal with the State's Attorney? I do believe you prove yourself to be a pompous, lying ass in light of the extensive relevant facts that have been presented regarding this murder.

Unknown said...

Rob

You still don’t know anything about me or where I am. Rest assured it’s not CA… Seems your limited thinking process only allows you to believe what you want to believe. Not the actual facts.

If you want to speak, I will call you or you can call me. I have nothing to hide about who I am or where I am. Not that either really makes a difference in anything. I am willing to prove my identity... Are you?

Maybe I'm confused; Are we suppose to believe Joe was truthful when he made those statements? You guys post they are habitual liars, if their lips are moving it has to be a lie, but not you want to use his word as truth. Seems the statement Joe has made has been for public (since one meaning of telling a lie was only if it was in public) and the media. So which is it? Did he lie or did he tell the truth when he made statements?


The problem is you have no clue as to what Harlow has or has not said. There is nothing you can prove that has come directly from Harlow. Prove me wrong… Tell me what Harlow has said….

By the Rob, if you read page 29 of the Arrest Affidavit, it was a visa card.

Or is the State of PA wrong about that also?

Now this is a simple fact to prove, not that it matters in any way, but you post a lie as fact, the Arrest Affidavit clearly says VISA.

Per the arrest affidavit, “utilizing a Visa card issued to Harlow Cuadra”

I have been called a lot of things in life, liar not being one of them. Your opinion of me ranks right up there with I don’t give a shit about what you think. Seems you are the one with the problem. Start lies and post whatever and prove nothing.

You make a lot of claims, all of which could be verified or denied if you could prove what you say for once.

If you have triangulated me in CA, I would like to see the IP tracking.., I give you my permission to post it. Or I will post it for you, email the link and I will make it a post.
No comments, just a post to see what you are seeing trying to prove something that is false.

If you think it makes me a liar because I don’t believe anything you say, again, I really don’t care.

You do however need to report the IP tracking problem to your service. This is nothing to triangulate about where I live.

Sorry Rob once again you have proven to know nothing.

There's nothing I can do to help you out, every time you post it proves you know less and less with every word you type. If you could stop talking for a while maybe there would be hope to regain the on line status you so desire.

elmysterio said...

You know this reminds me of when I was you. But know you are not me. So now you are Keith. I wonder does that make me Keith as well. No wait neither of us are Keith and you are not in La Jolla. You are in Florida and everytime you come to my blog you come from Florida. I really don't know what Rob is trying to do but he is really getting on my last nerve.

Unknown said...

Elm,

I can tell. I read your blog today and could read your frustration in your comments.

I guess it would have to mean you are Keith as well since we are the same person.

I don’t know what he is trying to prove or why he feels it necessary to lie about anything.

It should not be that hard to track me to FL and not CA.

Even thought I would like to travel to CA sometime, I still have never even been there much less lived there.

Just remember what VJ said, delete the BS and move on…

It goes back to a post I made a long time ago, who are you?
Who is Rob and what is his interest in this case?
Is he part of the investigation team? If he were I could understand some of his points, if not it just seems there is nothing better to do on Mtn. Shitmore.

I know I got frustrated over the blogging about this case and when I would read the comments, it would breach the peace.

Rob should be careful. Any attempt to breach the peace is unlawful. Any profanity used to breach the peace is also unlawful. He has breached the peace several times.

Not that I really care but some that are actually offended could pursue criminal charges against him. It would be funny to see, Rob asking bloggers for help and assistance while incarcerated. It would be even funnier for him to ask to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

So Elm the question of the hour is who is Rob?

elmysterio said...

Well from some of his recent posts it appears that he wants to tell us.

Unknown said...

I doubt it.

BB said...

How would Rob know where anyone posts from? He does not have his own blog to log the IP's of anyone.

elmysterio said...

Now that is a good question BB you should ask him just that. As far as I know that is some information he recieved from someone and I might add is quite inaccurate.

Ip addresses are not the most accurate way to tell where someone is. They just will give you a idea of who is posting and a approximate location. You can only get the accurate information if you subpenoea the ISP.

BB said...

Most, if not all of Robs informational rants are quite inaccurate. He has shown this over and over and over again.

Unknown said...

BB & ELM,

I agree. Rob is wrong once again.
I was wondering the same thing. How could he triangulate my location without his own blog.

Who knows???

Maybe one day he will get something right...lol

BB said...

"Maybe one day he will get something right...lol"

if that happens it will be after it has been established as fact elsewhere.

elmysterio said...

Rob is relying on information that he reads on other blogs and that he makes up as he goes along. He could not trianglate his way out of a card board box. He is basing all of his info on the lies he has been told by those who are trying to steer the flow of information. He is also on of the ones who claimed that Harlow was making a deal with the Da's office and we can clearly see that that was wrong.