Last Call for Harlow and Joe Comments... Maybe.

When I first started this blog it was with simple hopes of having a blog where people could chat and ask questions and get answers. It was also intended for a place for me to post my thoughts and opinions of this case so certain bloggers could not claim I was changing my story.

Blogging about this case has only lead to a whole lot of crap that means nothing to anyone.

Jim you are a prime example, how many time did I ask questions of you when I first started blogging about this case and you would respond with something totally off topic of what was asked. How many times did I say you turned something into psycho babble?

Now you think I should read or leave your comments posted.

Now if you have heard anything I have said in the past, you would have known that I have always said there is more to the story.

Not once have I ever said what I thought the “more to the story” was. Not to Ree, not to Harlow and certainly not to the blogging community.

Since you automatically assumed you knew what I was talking about. I thought I would run with it and see what happened. Well rest assured it did not take a lot of running to grow disgusted following this case.

Every one assumed it has to be I thought Harlow and Joe were innocent. Not once have I posted that. Did I post in support of Harlow, sure did. Not that I would ever be in his situation, but if I were I would definitely want someone there for me.

I agreed with ELM and still do on a some points and this will never change.

1 – Every one has the right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty
in a court of law, not cyperspace.
2 – Every one has the right to a fair trial

No one should have to endure the comments that have been posted on line. It makes me sick to think people are so chicken shit these days that they can only post anonymously on line. I worked in a jail and we housed killers that done far worse than Harlow and Joe and not once did I ever treat an inmate with blatant disrespect as the blogging community has with Harlow and Joe. Now don’t get me wrong, I loved to fight and still do. I did not disrespect inmates out of fear, but it was out of courtesy of treating a fellow man with some respect.

Not to mention the families. How much do they have to endure before people can say hey they have been through enough? Not just Harlow and Joe’s families, Bryan’s family as well. Do they need to read comments that have been posted regarding this case?

Yeah, not thinking so. But has anyone taken any time to consider how any of them may feel. Again, not thinking so. Just read the comments on any blog..

Now rest assured as an ex-police officer, I do believe in the death penalty. I do believe if anyone has received a fair trial and found guilty, then they should be put to death immediately. (However most death row inmates are there for years and years)

At this point I cannot say they can get a fair trial with information leaking out of the courthouse in PA. I can provide many links to the Supreme Court if you would like to read up on some cases. Sadly stupidity has caused many criminals to be free walking the same streets as you and your family.

Post what you will Jim, I really don’t care and not sure why you think your opinion should matter to me now? It has not mattered to me in the last year, why do you think it should matter now?

This will probably be one of the last blogs on this case here. I don’t know yet. I will post updates as the case progresses, but the comments as of late are exactly why I don’t care to follow this case anymore.


Update

This will be the final post for Harlow and Joe and all comments are welcome.
Only COURT updates will be posted. No comments will be allowed after today.

Say anything you want.

Say it about anyone you want.

This will be the last time you get to post any comments here about this case.

If you have not noticed, I moved on to other cases (long before now)

I really have no interest in the continued crap one has to endure to blog about this case.

So make it good... since it will be the last comments allowed about Harlow and Joe.

Truth, Lies and Renee Martin

Truth, Lies and Renee Martin.

Where to start with this topic? Jim posted on his blog that I was being silent regarding this case, he is right. For once I will admit Jim is right about something. lol.

Some time ago, after Joe wrote a letter to me begging for money for canteen I knew then he was guilty of this crime. Basic criminal profiling, Joe proclaims his innocents, wants people to feel bad for him and try’s to solicits fund since he has done nothing wrong. Basic criminal profiling proved Joe guilty. Now let me say this about Joe. I have only had 3 communications with him, all by letters and all were the same. He said he was innocent, begged for money and said he would be out of jail soon and if I sent him money he would tell me all. Needless to say I never sent him anything. Not to mention, I have never had much use for Joe. Never have believed a single word he has said unlike so many of you now. Since those letters, my interest in this case has declined over time. As Ree should be able to testify too since our calls and emails almost became non-existent.

Before you think I never have talked to anyone in this situation, I have arrested my fair share of criminals during my tenure as a law enforcement officer. I was a cop for 12 years and then had some medical problems had to hang up the ol’ gun belt and badge and then proceeded with another career. (Paramedic)

During the last many years as a cop I arrested more Violent Crime Suspects, Drug Suspects, DUI Suspects than any other officer in the county I worked in. I might also add I had the highest conviction rate. If you care to know I also wrote more tickets in a day than most would write in a year. I was a hardass cop.

Also before working the street as a cop, I was a Deputy and assigned to corrections. During this tenure I talked to convicted murders on a daily basis in my job performance. Hell, one of them would only talk to me when I was on duty. He refused to talk to any other correctional officer. He would write everything down on paper and then if he wanted to talk he would wait for me to come to work. He even went as far to say that if I ever needed anyone killed, to get a name to him even while incarcerated for life. The inmate had killed 2 people, one cut throat and burned with gasoline and then burned his house down on him. The second one died of a gsw to the head and then was covered with tires and set on fire with gasoline. The reason he done it was he wanted to see them burn in hell. He was on scene of both fire calls as the firefighters tried to put out the fires.

So rest assured I have experience with the worst of the worst, I have arrested the worst of the worst and I have heard every excuse possible know to man regarding crimes.

Harlow has been different than any other criminal I have ever talked too. He has always been well mannered and polite. He has even apologized for using occasional profanity. This has thrown me for a loop and led me to believe there was more to this story than we all knew. As far as posting, you can never find any post where I proclaim he is innocent. I did support Harlow in the beginning and even that support has dwindled down to non-existent.



But something that bothers me now is revelation of Renee Martin.

Initially, I thought Ree was an awesome person and she went above and beyond helping a friend. I never once thought she has a motive for this other than to help out Harlow and Joe.

We have talked over the last year. If she wanted to stir the pot, so to speak, she would have certain things posted to get something started in this blogging community. She thought the traffic to the blog was better if there was some conflict taking place and she thought she could get more money for them if more people were at the Harlow blog. So from time to time she would ask me to post something or we would talk about what she was posting and sometimes re-word what she had written.

Some days we would spend an hour just going over everyone’s blog and reading the comments that were posted.

I knew the FBI took (or she handed over) all of the letters, I also knew about the 3 way calls. Some days while we were talking she would have to go since they were calling.

Now Renee just so you know, as per one of our last conversation, you said you could go on a vacation with me since I was gay and your husband would not question it since I was gay.

Renee I’m not gay. I’m not part of the gay community in any way other than blogging about some gay cases. Just wanted you to get that fact right.

In one of our last conversations she told me of threats she has received from Joe’s family and some of the stuff going on now. She asked that I not post any of it and at her request I did not.

I felt bad for her to have done everything she has done and now it results in her being threatened.

Then a few days later, she posts everything on line. Now from our conversations over the last year I have to question what I believe when it comes to her.

She has purposely lied in the past to start shit on line. Now she is the key witness in a murder case?

I’m not sure what to believe now when it comes to Renee Martin. I did find a lot of humor in her comment on Jim’s blog, (talk about the pot calling the kettle black)

“Renee said...
In these circumstances, I'D FULLY EXPECT some sort of online flirting to be going on. So...?

June 9, 2008 3:08 AM

I believe from what I was told there was some online relationship between Harlow and Peter pan but I don’t know if it is true or not, like I said Jim when it comes to peter pan and grant I don’t know what to make of the whole thing. I really don’t like that subject because most of my opinion would be based off of what was said from Harlow and Joe and I don’t know if it was truth or a lie. That is the big problem when you lie to so many people they don’t know whether to believe you or not.”



So I must ask, is Renee Martin being truthful now?


May God have mercy on all those involved in this case.

Jim one error made on your blog

Jim one error was made on your blog.

One mistake you made on your blog (yes I actually read it today), I don't care about anyone’s credit nor do I care about fixing anyone’s credit. That is a link to a site that my friend started and he wanted the free advertisement.

I have been following several other cases for sometime and now want to combine them all into my blog. I don’t have the time to continue with several different blogs on all the cases I follow. So now everything is combined into one blog and I can discuss all the cases in one place.

As for my silence, I have not been posting about Harlow or Joe for some amount of time. I grew very tired of all the BS one has to deal with regarding that case. I have got to the point to where I don’t care about this case anymore.

People think they know what I think about this case and what my opinions are of this case and honestly they have no clue as to what I actually think.

Needless to say that does not stop the made up BS being posted on a regular basis regarding this case.

Truth, Lies and Joe…

Truth, Lies and Joe…


Well this should be interesting to say the least. Truth, lies and Joe.

Where to start on this topic?

First I think we should address a certain blogger thinking he has the inside scoop since he was able to post information from a year ago. Wow, now if that doesn’t show he has an inside source, I don’t know what would. LOL… What a joke.

Post information from a year ago and a jailhouse confession is the best he could come up with to prove he has an inside source. Jailhouse confessions are a hot topic with me and I personally think they never should be introduced into evidence in a court of law. Not that any felon would tell a "little white lie" to help himself out of jail, but even in that bloggers post they only addressed any favors from PA, once again there was no information posted if the State of VA increased the amount of “good time” they are going to receive. Of course, I think with this rock solid case the State has (according to some) it's pretty sad the State had to scoop all the way down to the jailhouse confessions.

Now even though this blogger seems dazed and confused, I have never tried to take any credit away from him. Even though he has posted on my blog he thinks I have. He has had an informative blog. My point is simple; he has been dumb enough to post information that should have never been released by the prosecution. So with that in mind this blogger has done a lot to help Harlow. So I guess we should actually thank him for that informative blog he has.

Secondly, has any one taken a second of time to think about what they are saying now?

Posters had made it known if Harlow or Joes lips were moving they were telling a lie. Now that Joe has made another statement against Harlow, it’s got to be the truth, right? So do we as a group believe what Joe has to say or not?

Now if I were Joe, rest assured I would be doing the exact same thing. Regardless of any involvement I may or may not have had in this case, I would be creating such a confusing mess that the prosecutor would never figure out what happened and that of course would help my chances in going free. And if you think they can prove it, ask any investigator working on this case how close they are to proving the theories the state has presented. Oh wait, that’s asking too much. For me to honestly expect some in this group to do something other than blog anonymously, what was I thinking?

Now the sad part is most bloggers following this case don’t seem smart enough to figure out some stuff like this. They just follow what they have been doing all along; believe what they want to believe regardless of the truth.

Of course there should have been red flags going up every where when Joe had his little out burst in court, but once again the bloggers following this case jumped right up to proclaim Harlow has to be guilty, Joe said so. Right?


And yet these same bloggers continue to change back and forth what they believe and then post that they have never wavered in their thoughts and beliefs.

Now to be quite honest, I never have had much respect for Joe and if we were blogging that Joe killed Bryan, I could believe that. However, we are not and my blog has been dedicated to Harlow.

But regardless of what I think, they both are still entitled to a fair trail. Which at this point and time, if there attorneys are smart enough to print certain post at certain blogs the judge himself could clearly see the prosecution has violated law regarding this case.

Whether or not we like it, those are the facts. The State must abide by the “letter” of the law when dealing with a capitol case. They clearly have not with this case.

Only time will tell. I guess that other blogger may be a little confused since my challenge was for him to post the information released in the discovery, not the jail house confessions…lol. Oh well, life goes on (for most at least).

Truth, LIes and the FBI

Truth, Lies and the FBI


Were to start with this topic regarding this case?

Truth, lies and the FBI.


From the very start of this case (for me was the night of the arrest of Harlow and Joe)
Everyone has had theories, opinions and their own personal thoughts of what has happened.

I, of course, was one of those people.

From the start of this case I think most have had pretty strong opinions about this case.

Now not that I think there is anything wrong with your own opinion as long as you are man enough to stand behind what you believe. (Unlike the people blogging about this case)

Some have claimed to base their opinions on nothing but truth. What a joke. The people blogging about this case have no clue what the truth of this case is. Every time there is an official court document produced, it generally disproves everything certain bloggers want to post as truth.

Now what I find even more amusing is how some will twist words and make it into what they want to believe. Regardless of the truth, they only want to believe their own lies and made up theories of this case.

There are a lot of details that we could discuss on this topic, but I don’t want to repeat everything certain bloggers have posted.

Some things I find funny is the proclaimed Blacks Beach Tape is how Grant has to keep correcting Harlow and Joe. Yet everyone thinks Harlow and Joe had all the “inside” information.

Now as sad as it is, some bloggers have lost the “inside” sources they have had and I must say it’s about time. The fact that inside information was being released and posted is just another example of the poor handling of this case by the State and the Court System in PA.

Not that there is any corruption in the judicial system in PA, oh wait, I forgot about the recent articles I have read.

Now as sad as it is certain bloggers don’t seem to know what to blog about any more.
And when they do blog the post they make seem to lack a lot of “inside” information that they once possessed. How sad is that.

Well honestly I find it quite funny.

Maybe if they had that inside information they would know all the details of certain letters they posted about and they of course would know about the details of the house.

I guess time will tell…

Some should have had a visit from the Police or FBI and if not they should be expecting one some time soon.

Seems they still have not been able to prove the theories that the State has presented at this point and time.

How sad is that? Certain bloggers claim the State have this rock solid case and yet the officials investigating this case still are no where close to proving the theories that the State has presented. It goes hand in hand with people making up the truth as they blog about this case.

Only time will tell the truth of this case.

What the f*ck!!!! Part 2

What the f*ck!!!! Part 2



First and foremost Jim posted this on my blog

“Something you might be able to learn from, Jakester, once you reach the requisite level of personal maturity.”

Personal maturity? What the F*ck?

That is coming out of Jim’s mouth?

Is this not the man that I have asked several times to remove my blog link from his blog and he repeatedly has refused to comply with my request?

Is this not the man that I accuse of being scared?

Is this not the man hiding behind a screen name?

Is this not the man that continues to post to my blog time and time again?

Is this not the man that I have made my personal thoughts of him very clear and have asked him time and time again why he even post to my blog? Always with no response I might add.

Is this not the man that if you ever question he never answers your question?

Is this not the man that his only proof of anything is “see I told you so?”
Never any documented facts, never actual transcripts, never actual copies of receipts. Just his opinion and god fearing proof of “see I told you so”

Jim, please feel free to add any that I have forgotten. I just have to wonder what the fuck you were talking about when you said “once you reach the requisite level of personal maturity.”

Then to make bad matters even worse we now have BB defending Jim.

I forgot BB you posted “Jakester, you’re very wrong about Jim. I do not defend him, do not misunderstand.” (I did correct your spelling but this is your direct quote)

What would you call it then? You also said “I do not know care what Jim thinks about me. I have respect for him coz he has never attacked me and is open to other opinions. - Even though he eventually disagrees with most. (Spelling once again corrected)

What the F*ck BB? He is only open to other opinions as long as they are his opinions. From day one of me posting and blogging about this case he has never once answered a single question, he has never posted an opinion followed up with facts.

He has made many factual claims that have been proven wrong time and time again. (See the discovery information that the defense has now.)

Maybe you guys can ask PC to post those 5000 pages. Oh yeah thats right, PC will probably never see that document since he has no inside source anymore. What the F*ck?

Not to mention every other actual document. His has only been able to post opinion he wants to pass off as fact. Well those days are over BB. The actual facts and testimony that the State has compiled at this time are available and has been reviewed by the defense. Rest assured these facts do not coincide with the opinions of Jim or Rob. .

Then we have Rob… What the F*ck?

Poor Rob is right there with Jim. Pretty scared, hides behind a screen name and seems he cannot answer any question asked of him. Not once since I started blogging has Rob posted any actual documented facts. But he was kind enough to post this to my blog---

I find Jim as objective as anyone can be and like me, he will confront with facts and that makes Jim and I allies. I don't care for Jakester and his personal attacks that he is trying to pass off as fact.

Like I said before Rob, every time you post you dig yourself place yourself higher and higher on Mtn. Shitmore.

For example: with your recent post to my blog talking about my conversations with Elm. We have never spoke to one another and the majority of the 10 emails we sent back and forth a year ago certainly does not mean he has given me any detail of this case. I don’t save emails or conversations like PC has, nor will I. But once again Rob you have proven that you know absolutely nothing.

You guys have never once presented with facts, only your opinions. Your only fact has been “see I told you so”

You don’t care for Jakester and his personal attacks, here’s a little hint for you, have Jim remove my blog link from his blog and you guys stop posting here. End of hint.

BB as much as I have agreed with you on some topics, you said “slob the clueless has no credibility. Slob is simply a coward who ALWAYS fails to back up his claims. Why? Because they are ALL lies.”

If you have not noticed Rob and Jim have always posted the same things.

My opinion of Jim is the same as yours of Rob.

So once again I find myself asking What the Fuck?

To lie or not to lie, that is the question

To lie or not to lie, that is the question


I have been sent some comments from a fellow bloggers post.

They are from Jim’s blog and now he claims I am a liar and should have no creditability in this case.

I have to laugh once again at his stupidity.

First and foremost, if he or any one can point out anything on my blog that is a lie, let me know and I will post a retraction as long as you can provide proof that what I have posted is in error.

Please do not post your opinion. Jim and Rob are notorious for only being able to post their weak, feeble minded opinions and that proves absolutely nothing in this case.







As a matter of fact Jim and Rob have destroyed their own creditability with repeated attempts to remain anonymous in this case.

I find that a man unable to stand up for what he believes in is not much of a man at all.


Certainly destroys creditability to only be able to post whatever you want behind a screen name so you can remain anonymous.



I can see Jim and Rob both sitting at their computer sniffing Sean’s dirty used underwear he auctions off and typing there is no way Sean can be involved. Then in the next sentence typing see I proved you wrong again.

Jim and Rob’s problems are simple. They obviously don’t have the knowledge to know what will be required to obtain such a conviction in a capitol case.

Not only do they not know, they want to post they have the facts of the case and they are the only ones that know the truth of what happened in this case. But as we have seen time and time again, the only thing they have been able to prove is NOTHING.

They have only posted opinions backed with no facts whatsoever other than I told you so.

Talk about a way to build creditability.

Now part of Jim’s and Rob problem is they also have no clue as to what I believe in this case. They only know what has been posted. Nothing more, nothing less.

They would like for you to think they know but once again they have only been able to post their opinion and say see I told you so. Once again, they have no clue.

They also wanted to condemn Elm and Renee and say neither of them have any creditability in this case either.

Elm is one of the few people that have actually stood up for what he believes in regardless of what anyone else says to him. Unlike Rob or Jim, Elms opinions have not wavered in the least. A lot more than I can say for Jim and Rob.

Renee is so far out of Jim’s league it’s not even funny. Ree is an awesome person.

Of course nothing more could be expected from a scared man hiding behind a computer screen. Build that creditability Jim…

As this case progresses more and more of the truth has been coming to light. Jim and Rob have been proven wrong time and time again.

Maybe we can get PC to post the information released to the defense from the discovery. Read that document and you will see a lot of light into this case.

You will see what I have said all along. There is a lot more to this case than Jim or Rob knows. This document is fact filled. Not once in this document can Jim or Rob post whatever and then post see I told you so.

This document does contain the facts of the case.

As many of us have requested time and time again, Jim and Rob (especially) post facts not your opinion. I realize your blog will have to close Jim if you can no longer post your made up facts of this case, but oh well. People would be better off not knowing people like you.


Please note, Jim is not wearing the cowboy hat in this picture. The second image shares a lot of the same characteristic of Jim. We are working to prove the identity of the second image.

Here we go again…

Here we go again…


After reading and getting caught up on everything happening over the last month I have started to read time and time again lately that bloggers are thinking I am the same person as Elm.

First and foremost, you are mistaken once again.

The only thing Elm and I have in common is we share some of the same thought and beliefs regarding this case.

Our main belief we share is regardless of participation in this murder, Harlow and Joe are privileged to the rights of a fair trial. Not only does this apply to Harlow and Joe, it also applies to anyone accused of committing a crime.

We also fail to place 100% faith in everything presented by the Commonwealth at this point and time, as so many of you have.

We don’t believe the theories or reasons presented by the State.

I fail to see how sharing some of the same thoughts make us the same person.

Of course with the mentality of the group following this case, they can make anything possible.

I’m just not sure how you can make a black guy and a white guy all the same person.








I’m sure Jim or Rob (to name a couple) will have some new ground breaking DNA reversal evidence to make us the same person.

So with that in mind BB, if you want to call Elm names, do it on his blog. The comments you left on this blog are not welcomed here. By the way, this blog does not belong to Elm. It is solely owned and operated by “The Jakester”.

BB I have welcomed your comments in the past but rest assured comments like the ones you left today will not be tolerated. I agree with you on some points that you have made in the past…. By the way, since we shared the same opinion, does that make us the same person?

Attorneys hard at work

Attorneys file for sanctions against prosecutors.

“Attorneys for Joseph Kerekes, who is accused with Harlow Cuadra of killing Bryan Kocis in Dallas Township last year, filed a motion for sanctions Thursday accusing prosecutors from the Luzerne County district attorney’s office of misconduct.”
According to the news, The Citizens Voice, on April 4th 2008 there was sanctions filed by the attorneys representing Joseph Kerekes.

According to the article Joe is planning to claim he was at the Fox Ridge Motel the night of Kocis’ murder.

This information is according to a potential alibi defense filed by Joe’s attorneys in January.

The attorneys for Joe claim prosecutors failed to inform alibi witnesses of their involvement in the case for the second time in two months.

The attorneys asked Judge Olszewski prohibit prosecutors “from introducing evidence or argument to rebut Joe’s alibi at trial.



“Olszewski set an April 11 deadline for comprehensive briefs from both sides and said he would hear testimony and arguments at 1:30 p.m. April 15.”

“A message left for Assistant District Attorney Michael S. Melnick was not returned”


I personally would hope that the prosecution team in this case would be smart enough to handle each and every detail of this case with the utmost diligence. One would hope that in a capital case the prosecution team would be crossing every “T” and dotting every “I”.

Maybe they just don’t realize that there are a lot of people following this case and every little detail of this case. Maybe in PA the same rules don’t apply to a capital case. Maybe there is no set standard for the procedures for the prosecution. Who knows?

One would also think that the Criminal Code of PA would be pretty darn specific as how they must proceed in this case. Maybe? Who knows, I have never read a criminal code book for the State of PA. So I guess I cannot say for sure that they have made an error in the handling of this case but I think it would be a bad way to start a capital case. Motions being filed “for sanctions accusing prosecutors from the Luzerne County district attorney’s office of misconduct.”

What happened to the solid case they had? Why would they avoid detail of this case if it was really as open and shut as some has posted over the last year?

Well as always, I have said there is a lot more to this case than any of us know at this time.

Of course, there was a lot of information in the 5000 pages of information released to the defense during discovery. Of course some bloggers will never get to see that document.

But to cast a little light, there were several pages of fast food delivery people and the most any of them could say is that Harlow and Joe were good tippers. Good to know the State was that detailed in the investigation I guess but will it really matter at trail? Seems these names have made it to the witness list.

Of course one murder case I followed some time ago was dismissed in trail. The defendant claimed she had a reaction to chocolate and this caused her to kill her husband. She was set free. Maybe the State of PA was truly interested in the Chinese Food Delivery Drivers just to make sure no MSG was placed in Harlow or Joe’s food so they could not use this as a defense.

Who knows?

One thing for sure this rock solid case seems to be plagued from the get go.
The case is circumstantial at best and now motions being filed for misconduct on part of the prosecution team, not to mention how in Gods name the State plans on trying to make some of the witnesses statements creditable.

It’s now going to start to get interesting. Jim and Rob can no longer make claims without proof. The truth and proof is slowly but surely coming to light.

The crystal ball does show all.

HA… Sorry Elm, had to throw that one in there. I read your lighten up post and I agree.


Of course you know that’s not going to happen in this case.

Pulling at Straws

Pulling at Straws???


With some of my recent post, some bloggers were kind enough to email me or make a comment to let me know they think I’m pulling at straws…


Let’s look at what they were talking about.

The comments came from the “You heard it here first” post that I made.





Well first and foremost, you did hear it hear first. Fact. No straw there.
Elm and I were the first to post this to blog land.

Harlow hired an attorney. Fact. No straw there.


Harlow friends and family raised enough money to pay the attorney. Fact. No straw there.

** Despite all the negativity and your comments that people would not donate to him to help ensure he was able to hire an attorney. Fact. No straw there.

PC seems to have “inside” information. Fact. Some things posted are not in any public record and yet he seems to have access to that information, even though there is a “gag” order in place regarding this case.

The only Rumor or unknown fact is where he gets his information from. Rumor has it that it was KM and he works in a position that could get him the information that he has posted. There was no straw pulling there. This is a rumor spreading throughout blog land.

Can I prove or disprove it? Nope.

Better yet do I really even care? Nope and that is a fact.

This is the first actual legal representation that Harlow has had. Fact.

Unlike the other appointed attorneys, this one is actually taking an active role in Harlow’s case. Fact.
** Could this cause problems for certain bloggers if any of the rumors prove true? Yep. That is a fact. No straw pulling there.



Can or will there be changes in the handling of this case now that Harlow actually has an attorney? Yep. That is a fact. Before now no attorney for Harlow has taken a very active role in representing him.

Harlow’s attorney is asking for dismissal of charges. Fact.

We all want to know the truth. Fact.

People cannot stand the fact that Harlow has actual supporters posting in his favor. Fact.No straw pulling there.

Now what straw was I pulling at? I’m not really sure. Seems everything said was factual. No made up un-biased truth. No misrepresentation.

It also seems I have once again pissed Rob off…

Wait I feel a tear…..

Nope, just dust on my contact…lol

Rob you posted on ELMS blog

Kiss my ass. You have presented nothing except a diatribe against Sean Lockhart and Grant Roy. No more, no less. A lot of promise without delivery.

First and foremost, I don’t kiss ass. Ever. Not to mention you are nothing more that a chicken shit that can only post stuff behind a screen name.

A diatribe against Sean and Grant.


Well let’s see Rob, they are the center piece of a violent crime of passion.
You want to believe they are innocent and cleared and I must believe you are full of shit.
They are involved, like it or not.
They are no boy scout; they weren’t doing a good deed just to help the police.
They saved there asses. The same as most anyone that wants to help the police.
Getting involved in a murder case is not something anyone wants to do and they did not do it just to be nice guys.

You believe Harlow and Joe needed them, Lets look at who contacted who first.
Sean posted he could not even afford break fluid for his car and you think Harlow needed more help then Sean?

Am I missing something here?

Before there arrest, Harlow and Joe supported over a million dollars of debt.
Seems to me they were making a lot of money to cover that debt.

Unlike Sean, selling dirty used underwear on line.

So who needed who?

By the way Rob, what have I promised? Not a thing. Unlike you, I post my opinions.
I certainly have made no promise to you.
I have not even made any statement remotely close to promising you information on Sean and Grant.

My thoughts and beliefs have not changed since I have been blogging about this case.
Unlike your many theories and lies.

Seems some people cannot stand that Harlow now has the attorney he needs.

I wish BB would still allow comments on his blog; I would love to post to his recent blog about separate trials.

I must agree with him on that one, how awesome would it be for Sean and Grant to be questioned twice on the stand.

Rob all I can say is get over it. I really don’t care that you are upset. Sean and Grant are involved. Like it or not.

It should be interesting to see what’s going to happen with the new attorney calling for dismissals of charges already.

Ok thanks for the comments and emails.

First part complete

First part complete….


Well for all those that had doubt that Harlow could ever raise enough money to retain an actual attorney, you were wrong.

People have been wrong about a lot of little details they think they know the truth about.

They want to post they are only interested in the un-biased truth, but they make up the truth they want to believe. Facts and details have been presented and no one there to question what has been posted. Unless you post in favor of Harlow, then people go crazy to post and try to prove they know everything and friends and family know nothing about what is going on.

It’s going to be interesting in a couple of day at the pre-trial hearing.

Second part to come….

Harlow still needs help. He needs more donations to be able to hire the expert witnesses he needs in this case.




He defense attorney has already talked to Harlow about the monies he would need to retain the witnesses he needs.

So with that in mind, stop by Harlow’s site and make a donation…


Thanks…

The Jakester.

Harlow’s Blog…

Harlow’s Blog…


Finally there is some activity at Harlow’s blog.

They also wanted to announce that Harlow now has an actual attorney.

I think this is great for Harlow. Regardless of guilt or innocence he needed an attorney to make sure things are done accordingly to the law. Unlike the handling of some of this case thus far.

It’s hard to say Harlow has had any representation before now. His appointed attorneys never even went to visit Harlow and like it or not, that’s the only way for a defense attorney to build a defense.

People wanted to claim Harlow should tell the truth to the attorneys to “save himself” but how do you tell an attorney anything if he never comes to see you?

And some bloggers felt Harlow had the representation he needed for a capital case. What idiots we have in the world.

Harlow’s new attorney has already been there several times.

I hope and pray that other bloggers don’t get in trouble over this case. But it seems some may be facing some charges. I would find some humor in the fact if they do get arrested and have to spend some time on the inside with Harlow. How funny would that be?

Talk all the shit about Harlow while on the outside, I wonder what they would say to his face?

I’m sure the response would not be anything like what has been posted.
We have several blog owners scared to release their real identity and I really cannot blame them at this point. If I were some of the other bloggers, I would be scared right now also.

Even though I can understand the anonymous status now, it still takes a lot of credit away from them whenever they post “just the facts” and want to remain anonymous.

Oh well, I welcome Harlow’s blog back… Thanks for that update.

You heard it hear first.

You heard it here first….lol


What a day.

First and foremost, through family and friends Harlow now has retained an attorney.

Enough money was raised to finally get someone other than a family law and ambulance chasing attorney.








Demetrius Fannick is now the attorney retained by Harlow.

Now I realize some of you may be in total disbelief since it has not been posted on many blogs yet. Seems PC was not too quick to pick up this news. Seems once again he had to revert to the arrest affidavit and the citizen’s voice for news that was reported a year ago.

Of course could the rumors be true? Was KM actually working as a liaison in that area and giving PC information on this case? It would explain the sudden disappearance of KM from PC’s blog; it could also explain how PC was able to obtain information regarding the case that was supposed to be under a gag order.

I don’t know and really don’t care that much where he gets his information but with an actually defense attorney working for Harlow, if he does have an inside source I look for that source to be “outed” and who knows what legal trouble could lie ahead for them. With an actual attorney working for Harlow, I would dare say a lot will change with the handling of this case.

So now maybe, just maybe it will make a difference for the truth to be known. There have been unanswered questions since the start of this case and now all the new theories and speculations of what happened, Harlow may now get the chance to tell the truth and make the truth know. Should others worry, I think so.

After all we all seek the truth of what happened. Regardless of your thoughts of guilty or innocent, we do want to know the truth of what happened.

The hearing on the 30th should be interesting to say the least.

New Theories...

New Theories...
With a new year among us, there has been new blog with new claims and statements regarding the death of Bryan Kocis.

When I first started following this case there was certain bloggers that had stone cold theories in place that left no doubt that they knew that Harlow and Joe was guilty of this crime.

Now I have been saying all along there is more to this case than any of us know right now and with some recent blogs about this case now it seems some have changed the stone cold theories and now they believe there could be more to this case.

There have been many details that the State will have to prove at trial that none of us know the answer too at this time.

I have said all along that I think Sean and Grant are involved in this case. I still believe that today. Harlow and Joe had no other person that could link them to Bryan Kocis.

Now some want us to believe that they had dinner with Sean and Grant and just out of the blue Harlow and Joe decided to commit a very violent crime of passion. Of course Harlow and Joe have been quoted time and time again saying “what if he went to Canada?” And yet certain bloggers want us to believe there was no conversation of murder at dinner.




Does not add up in any way! There was conversation of murder at dinner that night from what we have been told and what has been reported. Why? If Sean and Grant were truly innocent there would have never been any mention of murder at dinner.

** Again don’t forget I am not trying to say Sean and Grant killed Bryan. I simply think they play a very important part in the role of his death. **

Now something else I find funny is the fact that people have blogged time and time again that Harlow did not call the police when he arrived at Bryan’s house and found him dead. How could any reasonable person not call the police bloggers have said?

Now the really funny part is the fact that Sean and Grant did not call and warn Bryan of the doom he faced. Not one email, not one text message, not one single word from Sean and Grant to save a mans life. Why is that? What happened to the Boy Scout theory here? Could it be they wanted him dead?

Certain bloggers want us to believe Sean and Grant are the Boy Scouts and just doing a good deed and they decided to just casually get involved in a violent crime of passion. Why did they not do a good deed and save his life before this violent murder took place.

Something else I find interesting is why would complete total strangers commit such a violent crime of passion. This murder was definitely a crime of passion. Who commits a crime of passion? Strangers or someone that knows the victim?

People now want to know the whereabouts of Robert W. the night of the crime. Why would this be important? I mean after all the stone cold theories of Harlow and Joe’s guilt, why would RW be a person of interest now?



Could it be Harlow told the truth when he arrived at the house and he actually did find him dead?

There are a few other important facts that have not been answered by the State at this time.

For example, where did Bryan’s property go? The State wants us to believe they killed him that night, searched the house and found everything and then loaded everything into an SUV with a third break light and then was able to drive away undetected. Again the time line presented by the State did not allow any time to spare. Without going back and reading that again, I think there was around 30 minutes for everything to transpire.

They neighbors have testified and none of them were able to place Harlow and Joe at the scene of the crime. With the short time line of events that night certainly the neighbor walking by would have seen some activity. The neighbor that looked through the window just prior to the fire saw nothing. In the minutes before the fire one would think there would have been a lot of activity. I mean after all they had to get all that property loaded into the SUV.

How could they do that and not been seen? The neighbors seemed to know a lot about Bryan’s habits and the people coming and going at all hours and yet the night of this event, no one knows anything.

How odd is that.



What else is pretty odd is the information posted on PC’s blog. PC has posted that the police knew about the SUV even before it was returned. Some one had to call the police and give them a tag number.

How could this be possible? How could anyone give the police the tag number of the SUV unless they were at the scene of the crime? The neighbors have testified they could not even identify the vehicle so they could not have given the police a tag number. Could it be that Harlow and Joe were actually set up? How easy would it have been to set them up? What will really be interesting to find out is if there was any communication between Sean and Grant and Robert prior to the murder. It will still be interesting to find out the truth of the conversation the night of the deadly dinner.



Well as I have said all along, I think there is a lot more to this case than any of us know right now. Should be interesting to learn the truth of what actually happened and why.

Twas the night before Christmas…

Twas the night before Christmas and all through blog land, not a creature was stirring not even a mouse.

As Christmas has approached us, I just wanted to take a minute and say


I hope everyone has a very Merry Christmas.

Please remember Santa has a list and he will check it twice to see if you have been naughty or nice.







So with that in mind I hope that you get what you asked for under your Christmas tree this year…











To some of you, better luck next year. HA HA HA

What to say?

Well as most people know I can always come with a lot to say about any topic you desire.

But of course the most people following this blog seem to be more interested in what’s happening with Harlow and Joe. So maybe we should do an update in Harlow and Joe.

What’s new with Harlow and Joe? Hmmmm…. Errrrrr…. Well…..

Nothing.

Of course as people still want to speculate on what is going on the truth of the matter there is not a lot of anything going on to talk about right now. Now we have some that continue to post the silence of the courts must mean there is a deal underway. Nope.






What does the silence of the courts mean? Nothing at all. This is the typical action preceding a trial. Of course there is no new information to review, nothing to dispute and no activity to consider. Of course there can be new information in the hands of the court or defense team and we will not hear any of it until the trial begins.

Now there are bloggers making up new and exciting blogs for everyone to follow for example BB.

BB has dedicated a post to the bloggers and I made an honorable mention on his blog. Lucky me….lol... Just joking BB. It was cool for you mention me on your blog.

One topic I wish you would have included BB is the fact that some bloggers desire the truth to be posted and not pure speculation or assumption.

Certain bloggers continue to make up details of this case and then post them as the truth and then become upset when people don’t believe everything they post.

BB you have done the same recently with your post about a deal being made. I asked for proof and all you could say is I can believe what I want to believe. Well you are right about that. I do believe what I believe and when people post lies and the spun truth as fact it makes my beliefs a lot stronger.



The sad truth is people don’t want to know the truth. They only want to know what they elect to believe.

BB one major error you made in your recent blog about the bloggers is the fact about Jim. He has been one of the biggest assholes I have encountered online dealing with this case. The sad truth is he finds humor in being from Mtn. Shitmore. He has become more like Damon. Start shit and then battle over links to different blogs. I don’t want my blog linked to his and he refuses to remove it. Why? Just to be an ass is the only logical answer. He cannot understand I don’t want to be associated in anyway with him and he still refused to simply delete my link from his site.

We are supposed to be responsible adults and this case has brought out the worst of the worst in the human race. We have seen and heard from some of the world’s dumbest people blogging about this case. Some have taken any fact they can in an attempt to prove Harlow and Joe is guilty. Look back to the Spin factor post I made. Following this case on line has been one of the worst I have ever followed because of the lies and spun truth being posted as fact.

People want to claim that Harlow has influenced my thought process in this case. Well everyone sorry to disappoint you but that is not true. My thoughts and beliefs started when I first read the Arrest Affidavit. I was in total disbelief when I did read that entire document. I’m still in disbelief.

Regardless of what anyone wants to post the Commonwealth Attorney does have the burden of proof in this case. He has proven nothing in court. I do believe he is going to have problems in court trying to prove the details he must prove to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt.






Lastly BB you said it does not matter who certain bloggers are. I disagree with you on that topic as well. The identity of people is something I think is very important. If certain people are involved in criminal activity then they need to be dealt with accordingly. Being allowed to remain anonymous allows them to continuously violate laws. Not only for the criminal activity of certain bloggers we have to consider things like where people work and does the employer of that employee actually know what there employee’s are doing. Would the Sun Times in NJ actually support a blogger making the statements he has made? Would a camera store employee in VA Beach actually be allowed by his employer to destroy business because of his blogging about this case?
Would a police department actually allow an officer to make certain comments as they have regarding this case?

This list could go on and one but for the sake of being fair I will stop.

Remaining anonymous only allows people to do whatever they want with no personal responsibility to anyone.

This case has been no different. People want to post anything they want without regard to anyone. People don’t want that personal responsibility coming to haunt them. At some point and time we need people to support personal responsibility. Blogging about this case is no different. People need to be held accountable for the lies they tell. Whether at work or at home, people need to be held accountable for their actions. Of course I’m sure you will disagree with that, more power to you. I really don’t care. BB you are one of the bloggers that need to be identified.

Is it true or is it yet another lie?

Is it true or is it yet another lie?


After reading Harlow’s blog I decided to check out what he said in his letter to the editor of Out.

Seems Harlow wanted to thank Out for publishing the article about the death of Bryan Kocis. Harlow extended his thanks Michael Gross for putting together an un-biased version of this story for print.

Harlow points out that the writer could have easily exploited them for information or cast a darker cloud over them involving this case.

Harlow went on to say that Mr. Gross was sensitive and considerate when interviewing Joseph’s parents and that Mr. Gross is an gentleman and excellent ambassador for Out.

That’s really all there was to the brief letter to the editor.

Now the point to consider…

Is any of this true or is it a lie.

Certain posters make claims that anytime Harlow speaks in public, it has to be a lie because his lips are moving. Now of course there have been many versions of this statement and what it was suppose to mean. Certain bloggers that claim to know it all, have had to back up and repost the meaning of what they are saying or posting on a regular basis. Pretty sad I tell you. I have admiration for anyone that is willing to stand up for what they believe in or take a stance and actually use factual information with resources to back up the claims they want to make. However, in this case I only have admiration for a few (Rob and Jim are not included in the list of people I admire.)


Now with the certain bloggers attempting to make Harlow a liar, you have failed miserably.

Harlow has only made a few public statements and to date, those statements still stand true and the meaning of what he has said has not once changed (unlike some bloggers) since I have been following this case.

Is it true or is it a lie? Just ask certain bloggers for proof of what they say and of course they cannot provide anything other than an opinion.






Another issue to consider is where I live and who am I. First and foremost, does it really make any difference? If so, what difference does it make?

Let me tell you what difference it makes, NONE WHAT SO EVER.

Now some claim they have triangulated my location to be in La Jolly, CA. I have read that using the triangulation method is known to cause brain tumors since it depends on the internet and pings. (That is a joke by the way). I really don’t know how anyone could triangulate my IP to be in CA. Oh wait, I do know... Just make up whatever you want to post as the truth. Once again certain bloggers only have proven to have no knowledge of what they are saying.

Now of course they cannot even back up what they are saying about where I live. They once again just want to make up lies to keep the topic spinning. Now the funny part is I have never once been to California much less even heard of La Jolly and now it is continuously being reported that I live there. Of course some of these same bloggers use to think that Elm and I was the same person. Very early in that discussion I posted that I was not even the same race as Elm, but that still did not stop some from making up whatever they wanted.

I live in Florida. Not that it makes any difference what so ever. Not that this will change the opinion of some that seem to think I am now someone named Keith. On another side note, I have not even seen or chatted with anyone named Keith following this case.

Is it true or another lie? I must say it is more lies being told. It’s really sad that people still have to make up stuff while following this case.

There are a lot of details that could be discussed without the liars trying to prove what they know or should I say what they don’t know.

Last but not least, we have to consider the recent blog entry from Joe.

Joe seems to think that there is a deal on the table and if all was told Sean and Grant would be there with him soon. Joe seems to want to extend a welcome for them to come join him in Luzerne County Jail.



Now of course people are screaming that Harlow is making a deal, where are the facts to support that statement? Even in Joe’s recent post there is no mention that it is Harlow making a deal. Could this be a statement from Joe that he has finally given the State the information they need to finally arrest Sean and Grant.

Is it true or another lie? Good question. I’m not sure.


One thing I am sure of since the beginning of this case I have always felt that Sean and Grant were involved in the case. If they were truly innocent there would never have been a discussion of murder at dinner. Unless that is a CA thing, talk about murder while you eat. Here in Florida that is unacceptable dinner conversation.

I have always claimed there was a lot more to this case than what we knew in the beginning. Could this be the beginning of the end for Sean and Grant?

Is it the truth or a lie? Should Sean and Grant actually pack a pillow for their travels to PA?

The Santa Claus Theories...

The Santa Claus Theories….


While watching the world news I watched some stories I could have sworn was written by certain bloggers. The story was covering the Santa Clause theory. Now the jolly ole St. Nick is not as jolly as he used to be according to some people.

There were several press releases that uncovered the new Santa Clause theory.
Seems poor ole’ St. Nick is now the blame of scaring children and the international problem for weight gain in younger children.



According to the new theory, it’s got to be Santas fault. After all, he likes to eat cookies and drink milk. What else could be the cause of children becoming overweight? Certainly not the parents fault for the food provided or the lack of dietary control or the lack of outdoor activities.

I mean who else could be the blame, one night a year Santa likes to eat billions of cookies and drink hundreds of gallons of milk, all in one night. It’s got to be his fault. Interesting enough the new theory failed to mention his dietary habits during the rest of the year. They said it’s got to be his fault, he is fat after all.

Now we cannot completely fault the parents, after all we are well into the digital age and even the kids now think they need cell phones and computers and several game stations for the TV in their room and on line. All the new toys companies and gamers are right on top of the marketing to help the parents out in keeping the kids at home, inside and out of trouble.



It seems some want to change the image of Santa all together. They want the new and improved Santa to be skinny. They think he needs to tone done so the children will not want to grow up in his image.

WOW… They are concerned with a fat guy being Santa, but one of the new games available, you can actually scan your faces into the characters and as you blow up the cops and other players you are looking at their actual face. But, it’s all got to be the fat guys fault.

It seems some want to make this the standard. Regardless of what happens, who can we blame for what happened? How about Ole’ St. Nick? He is the next victim of people failing to accept personal responsibility. Would be interesting if Ole’ St. Nick could post a blog about this topic.

I would hope that instead of blaming Santa because of an overweight child, the parents (or legal guardian) could take some personal responsibility. Someone had to give the child the cookies and milk and for some reason, I don’t think they can blame Santa for that.

It goes right back to the new standard, something happened, who can we blame to place blame on someone else other than the actual responsible parties.

What a wonderful world we live in.

Then while I was searching for the news story on theory of Santa being the cause of weight gain, I ran into yet another disturbing story about Santa.

It seems now there have been some people offended by Ho, Ho, Ho. Wonder why someone would be offended by the word HO.

Once again, maybe they should look back at the personal responsibility, don’t like the line of work you are in, change jobs. Sometimes the truth does hurt.

It seems they think the children are scared by the Ho, Ho, Ho…
Australia’s Santas in training have already been told to tone it down. They are now asking that instead of the time honored traditional Ho, Ho, Ho the Santa should now say Ha, Ha, Ha.

They are in hopes no one will be offended by the Ha, Ha, Ha. They also think that the new Ha, Ha, Ha will help the children cope with fear while visiting Santa once a year and hearing him scream out, Ho, Ho, Ho.

This article went on to interview Santa training academies and what they thought. It was unanimous they thought the people making these claims are wrong.

The article went one step further and interviewed some children and seems they all want to hear the Ho, Ho, Ho. That’s what Santa is supposed to say according to the children interviewed.







It should be interesting to say the least when Christmas roles around and to find out if the new Santa Theory will have any effect on the Ho, Ho, Ho.

What the...

What the……..

Over the course of following the Kocis case we have heard the many opinions of many and the facts from a few.

When I first started following this case it was simple and was more of an open discussion with some people. We would actually discuss the details of the case. What we use to discuss was relevant to the case. Of course even with the discussion of the case some issues got heated, people got mad and upset. But when it was over, it was over. We moved on to something that mattered or some other topic dealing with this case.

I started this blog to keep my opinions posted, as people accused me of changing my story I could simply refer them to the blog and they could see I have not changed my story once. I still have the same thoughts and beliefs in this case now as I did the first day I started to follow the blogs about the case.

I am a firm believer that we are all entitled to the right of freedom of speech. But I’m to a point now that I don’t support the right of people to post their opinions just to be mean, nasty or just an outright jerk. Some of the comments have just flat out been stupid with no factual basis. Some even though this has been pointed out time and time again, still want to make up facts of this case to help them. What the…

Who is going to gain anything from following this case? No one other than Damon, he has claimed to have the book deal.

Why does anyone need to make up any fact in this case and post it? There are enough facts about this case that could be discussed without the lies being made up and posted.

It is mind boggling to say the least. If anyone wants to prove a point, actually use documented facts and prove what you have to say. The spoken word of a couple has become nothing. They actually mean absolutely nothing. That is sad.

It has got to point that I have removed a link from my blog and I ask a certain blogger to remove the link to my site from his blog and his response was, why would I do that?

Are you serious? It has got to the point that his blog and any word, spoken or written mean nothing to me and I don’t want to be associated with anyone like him. How hard would that be to remove my link from his site? Took me all of 30 seconds to delete him.

It’s almost as the famous blogger that we all have talked badly about. The “unspoken one” has (as it has been rumored) harassed people over links and caused problems for people over link to different blogs. He has made quite a name for himself.

Do we have another “unspoken one” in the making? This is funny to a certain degree. This blogger has claimed anyone that disagrees with him is suffering from a psychological problem. What does his recent action say about him?

I am a firm believer in the following;

We all know which blog supports which belief in this case.

Why in Gods name would you continuously post against what the blog owner believes?
Is it to make a name for you and obtain certain status on line? (I use to think there was only one blogger concerned about that, now we have several interested in the on line status issue.)
Is it to truly just be an ass?
Surely there has to be some reason to the continuous crap regarding this case.

During the time I looked at it as an open discussion and it was cool to be a part of. Now it has brought out the worst in me and personally no one is worth my time and effort here.
I will continue to post my blog as I see fit and will continue to post my opinions, thoughts and beliefs.

My blog was not started to publish anything or to become known in the internet world. My blog is truly my blog and it was started just for me. I personally don’t care if 1 person reads it or a thousand people read it, it is still my blog and a place for me to post what I believe.

As I have followed this case, I have been selective of the blogs I have read on a regular basis. This selection will become even stricter. I do know what blogs support which belief. If I decide I want to argue, rest assured I know what and where to post.

What happened to the day when we could actually discuss any topic of the case according to the actual facts of the case? It seems a couple has completely destroyed the possibility of discussion without arguments over lies and made up facts in the case.

It should be interesting over the course of time to see how the “unspoken one #2” responds. Honestly, I don’t care. I just don’t want to be associated with him in anyway. Unfortunately, he cannot even understand a fact as simple as I don’t want to be associated with him in anyway.

So I ask, what the…

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