Wednesday, November 28, 2007









What to say?

Well as most people know I can always come with a lot to say about any topic you desire.

But of course the most people following this blog seem to be more interested in what’s happening with Harlow and Joe. So maybe we should do an update in Harlow and Joe.

What’s new with Harlow and Joe? Hmmmm…. Errrrrr…. Well…..

Nothing.

Of course as people still want to speculate on what is going on the truth of the matter there is not a lot of anything going on to talk about right now. Now we have some that continue to post the silence of the courts must mean there is a deal underway. Nope.






What does the silence of the courts mean? Nothing at all. This is the typical action preceding a trial. Of course there is no new information to review, nothing to dispute and no activity to consider. Of course there can be new information in the hands of the court or defense team and we will not hear any of it until the trial begins.

Now there are bloggers making up new and exciting blogs for everyone to follow for example BB.

BB has dedicated a post to the bloggers and I made an honorable mention on his blog. Lucky me….lol... Just joking BB. It was cool for you mention me on your blog.

One topic I wish you would have included BB is the fact that some bloggers desire the truth to be posted and not pure speculation or assumption.

Certain bloggers continue to make up details of this case and then post them as the truth and then become upset when people don’t believe everything they post.

BB you have done the same recently with your post about a deal being made. I asked for proof and all you could say is I can believe what I want to believe. Well you are right about that. I do believe what I believe and when people post lies and the spun truth as fact it makes my beliefs a lot stronger.



The sad truth is people don’t want to know the truth. They only want to know what they elect to believe.

BB one major error you made in your recent blog about the bloggers is the fact about Jim. He has been one of the biggest assholes I have encountered online dealing with this case. The sad truth is he finds humor in being from Mtn. Shitmore. He has become more like Damon. Start shit and then battle over links to different blogs. I don’t want my blog linked to his and he refuses to remove it. Why? Just to be an ass is the only logical answer. He cannot understand I don’t want to be associated in anyway with him and he still refused to simply delete my link from his site.

We are supposed to be responsible adults and this case has brought out the worst of the worst in the human race. We have seen and heard from some of the world’s dumbest people blogging about this case. Some have taken any fact they can in an attempt to prove Harlow and Joe is guilty. Look back to the Spin factor post I made. Following this case on line has been one of the worst I have ever followed because of the lies and spun truth being posted as fact.

People want to claim that Harlow has influenced my thought process in this case. Well everyone sorry to disappoint you but that is not true. My thoughts and beliefs started when I first read the Arrest Affidavit. I was in total disbelief when I did read that entire document. I’m still in disbelief.

Regardless of what anyone wants to post the Commonwealth Attorney does have the burden of proof in this case. He has proven nothing in court. I do believe he is going to have problems in court trying to prove the details he must prove to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt.






Lastly BB you said it does not matter who certain bloggers are. I disagree with you on that topic as well. The identity of people is something I think is very important. If certain people are involved in criminal activity then they need to be dealt with accordingly. Being allowed to remain anonymous allows them to continuously violate laws. Not only for the criminal activity of certain bloggers we have to consider things like where people work and does the employer of that employee actually know what there employee’s are doing. Would the Sun Times in NJ actually support a blogger making the statements he has made? Would a camera store employee in VA Beach actually be allowed by his employer to destroy business because of his blogging about this case?
Would a police department actually allow an officer to make certain comments as they have regarding this case?

This list could go on and one but for the sake of being fair I will stop.

Remaining anonymous only allows people to do whatever they want with no personal responsibility to anyone.

This case has been no different. People want to post anything they want without regard to anyone. People don’t want that personal responsibility coming to haunt them. At some point and time we need people to support personal responsibility. Blogging about this case is no different. People need to be held accountable for the lies they tell. Whether at work or at home, people need to be held accountable for their actions. Of course I’m sure you will disagree with that, more power to you. I really don’t care. BB you are one of the bloggers that need to be identified.

21 comments:

BB said...

Interesting post.

I am known to those that need to know. I have been vetted and cleared of any involvement in this murder saga.

Most bloggers know my name. Some know my location.

Some bloggers wish I was someone I am not.

What exactly would you like to know about me?

elmysterio said...

Jakester, It would appear that you want more info about me, well all you have to do is ask. I am not hiding and I am nomore involved in this case that you are.
I started my blog because I wanted to get some of the misinformation cleared up. but as you can see I have been accused of aiding and abbeting and hiding evidence and being you.

So as you can plainly see there are those who want to hide facts in this case and those who want the truth told.

I happen to be one of the ones who wants the truth told and that is causing some to want me silenced.

Unknown said...

BB I think who you are and why you are involved in this case would be a good start.

I just get sick and tired of people hiding behind the anonymous status. It has done nothing but allow people like Jim and Rob to say and do whatever they want without any regard to the truth of the case.

I agree that we all can and will have different opinions. I have no problems with that in anyway. What I do have a problem with is the fact Jim and Rob (and other bloggers) want to remain anonymous. Why?

Are they in some way involved in this case? Are they with the police? Where they part of Sean and Grants plan to make this all happen? Are they Sean and Grant? Are they a former client of Harlow? Could they be Damon? Who knows? I don’t.

I did not know anyone before this case. That includes Harlow and Joe. That has made this case even more difficult to follow for me. It has been more difficult when electing who to believe. To me someone that can only remain anonymous cannot and does not bring much credit to anything they may have to say.

Unknown said...

Elm,

You are a little different and that post was not directed at you. I do have your email and feel like if I wanted to know more about you all I would have to do is email you and I would find out.

The post was intended more for people like Rob, Jim, PC and BB to name a few. What is there involvement in this case?

I mean there is PC claiming to only post the unbiased truth and for the most part he is right as long as that un-biased truth sways towards guilty.

We have Rob and Jim who have been nothing more that an ass on line. I would ask God to have mercy on their souls if they every spoke to me in person in the same manor they have on line. The anonymous status has allowed them to grow into the assholes they are today. You feel they may be law enforcement, I think they have proven time and time again to be entirely too stupid to be law enforcement.

You Elm are different. What you say and how you say it is almost scary to a certain degree. I can definitely understand why people have confused us for being the same person.

We seem to have a lot of the same thoughts and beliefs in this case. There have been a couple of issues we have disagreed on but for the most part we have the same thoughts and beliefs and I know if I wanted to know anything more about you all I would have to do is ask.

elmysterio said...

It is kinda scary and I guess that is what confused alot of people.

We do seem to be more or less resonable when it comes to this case (some would disagree) and we have not rushed to judgement.

I must admit that I can be a shit disturber at times but it gets the dialog open.

I feel the same way about you if I wanted to know something about you all I would have to do is ask.

Anonymous said...

Elm,
You be a "shit disturber at times"
I do not believe it - could never happen. :)
Jakester, one day I am going to get him to Miami for a visit, maybe you can pop down for dinner too!

BB said...

Jakester,

I tend to forget how new you are to this saga.

My involvement is simple. I came across a forum where blatant attacks were frequent. Silly me posted my thoughts on what I was reading. I was then attacked on this forum and accused of being Bryan in disguise on that forum. I fought back at that. I was sucked in (I allowed it looking back). It got more ugly by the minute. I decided I'd had enough. I posted saying so, I also added someone is going to end up dead over this saga. I disappeared, the forum also disappeared.

Months later I was horrified to read of Bryan's murder.

Blogs began popping up. All these blogs were trashing a dead man and full of lies. I know they were lies because I witnessed this play out on line from the begining of the saga. This gives me insight some others do not have. Go to the first entry on my blog. The rest is history.

I have kept my identity private due to several online threats made against me from the CobraKiller, Dewayne and even Elm. These threats were reported. The authorities know who I am. Elm became part of that at the time. He was fed lies. He did not know it then. He knows it now.

I do not know any of the players. I have never met any of the players. I am not interested in meeting any of the players.

Anonymous said...

Jakester,
The slide show pictures, are they family/friends. I am curious - that is so cool! Are you in them? I would love to see a pic. of the Jakester.

Unknown said...

VJ that would be cool, we could all meet for dinner.

The slideshow would not play my pics.. That is just from somewhere in cyberland.. Sorry no picture of the Jakester in there...

BB thanks for that info. It helps explain some.

Rob said...

Hey Jakester--

My real first is Rob and I am not about to change it for you. As for the righteous indignation horseshit stuff it. BB and RW called attention to themselves by maligning others. RW doesn't like wanting to be accountable BooHoo. He made himself accountable. And I will continue dogging him.

Rob said...

BB/Dan wrote, "CobraKiller, Dewayne and even Elm threatened me." Really, with what the promise of legal action? Good golly, Elm was your pal for awhile Danny Boy or did you let that fact slip your narrative of hearts and flowers of your little ole misunderstood self? That lasted until Elm let slip with your name, Dan.

BB said...

rob,

nobody on these blogs are 'pals' of mine.

if i am dan, how can i be bryan or robert or caleb or any other persons name many pull out of their holes? you are all clueless on this.

you know nothing. your fat file of shit is just that... shit. you really are clueless.

BB said...

rob,

dewayne made a direct threat on my life. it was recorded. it was reported. it backfired.

ask him for the details if you want to know more.

Rob said...

Danny Boy--

Back to innuendo. Tsk, tsk.

elmysterio said...

Rob you are wrong again I never said that BB's name was Dan. Someone else posted that bit of info and we all know who that was. DK was pissed at BB and he did that and tried to blame it on me.

Before you go off spouting facts get the correct ones first. I do believe BB knows the truth about that as well.

But thank you for trying to clear that up. your efforts are appreciated.

BB said...

slob,

if your going to spout of 'stuff', try a little research, then you just might know what your blabbing about.

your anger grows by the minute. that is very clear. grief sucks too. do it in a quiet corner before the veins start bulging in your head.

amuse yourself with your fat file of (bull) shit. it bores me.

you bore me.

nobody here gives a rats ass.

as usual, your clueless.

Rob said...

Danny Boy--

Not like you. You wander in the twilight, thinking that anyone who reads your pap buys Sean and Grant as being complicit in Kocis' murder. If they are involved in anything, it was being naive enough to accept Harlow and Joe's invitation to the dinner at Le Cirque that Joe signed and paid for. This would be the same dinner that Elm insisted that Sean and Grant paid for until confronted with the fact of the receipts and the signature on the checque that paid for that dinner.

So Dan, the great stalwart pillar of Jello who needs a pen name to shield himself behind, my facts are just fine. I will dog RW because he deserves the very treatment he was dishing out when his master was still alive and controlling his behavior. Elm's ticked because he doesn't like people knowing he interacted with the grifting couple whilst they were on the run from the law well prior to April.

And Jakester, it is La Jolla, CA you blog from.

Unknown said...

Rob,

Sorry you are wrong once again.
I'm still in St. Pete Florida.
That is a fact.

And by the way, I don’t think I ask anyone to change their name.

I want to know who people are and what involvement they have in this case.

Changing your name only allows you to remain even more anonymous.

I was asking who you are and what involvement you have in this case.

BB said...

slob,

again, if your so concerned about certain people in this saga, do your own blog.

you show daily just how clueless you really are.

thats what happens when you refer to a fat file of (bull) shit.

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